Andy DelGardo
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.31 09:50:00 -
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Cutout Man wrote:Its silly to train for 3 months to fly an Orca that costs 750mil to move small, high value items. Unless, maybe, it exceeds the volume of the available options. In hisec, the only goal is to not get locked. Thats it. No target lock, no scan, no die. Cloaky haulers and covops are always a good choice, but the MWD/Cloak trick works in hisec even better than it does losec (no one moves to kill you immediately). A cargo fitted industrial shuold handle most of the bigger stuff with mwd/cloak.
Again, very simple, your only goal is to not get target locked.
Just a reminder that seems to get misunderstood about getting locked and cloaky haulers vs Orca. First is that u can get "Insta" locked even in a Cloaky Hauler, it takes around 3-4 ships for this setup and the player has to click in space rather than using the overview, since the overview only updates every second, while the 3d space updates directly.
The thing is that if the ganker is lucky he can technically lock u. This has to-do with the server 1 sec working interval for every action. So if u hit "align" optimally 0.3 to 0.5 sec later u can hit cloak and get in the next 1 sec time-slice, but if the next time-slice is 0.7-1 sec further apart, the ganker can try to lock u and with a bit luck might have tried so in your "align" timeslice, so he will get a lock before your "cloak" command arrives at the server and therefor u cant cloak.
So depending on the gankers ability and knowledge and your own lag, u are not 100% safe in a cloaky hauler. I would still say the chance is only 1-2%, but don't be surprised if this may actually happen some day.
The next problem is undocking/docking and getting bumped, even in a cloaky hauler. Again if the ganker is capable and your undock and warp to insta is a little unlucky, they can insta lock and shoot u. The problem here is simply that even a maxxed cloaky hauler will only survive 1 tornado alpha. So 2 lucky insta boosted tornados will kill u, if something goes wrong at dock/undock. This is especially dangerous at docking, if u land like 2km off from the station and have no MWD/AB or need to activate it and approach. U will need 2-6 seconds to get in range and dock, this is enough time for 2 boosted tornados to lock and kill u!
So u basically have to compare the chances, what is more likely? I will get ganked by 17-26 tornados in Hi-Sec (0.5 vs 0.8 sec) in my orca, just because they are bored or hate me or the 1-2% chance someone gets lucky on u while warping and docking/undocking. U have to decide this for yourself.
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